Multi-week Training Plan Creator (Intertools)

@scorphus - This is a really neat tool. Thank you for all the work you put into building this!

I recently generated a training plan using the Joe Friel’s Method Importer. I asked it to build a plan that’s polarized in nature. However, it seems that what it generated appears to be more “threshold” oriented according to intervals.icu (it’s setting my endurance rides at a zone 3 vs 2). Do you think there was an error in the data I entered, or do the workout plans this generates need some massaging in order to get it into the right style of training for one’s specific needs?

@scorphus this tool is great, I was actually surprised by the quality of the workouts being generated. Kudos to you!

I’m running into one issue though: when I give just zone and time as inputs, it has a really hard time to generate workouts for that.

This

is the output for

As you can see on Saturday I give only Z2 and 2.5h. Should be a simple workout, but the durations it comes up with are all over the place.
It’s much more stable when I give a [training load and no duration target] or [zone, load and duration]

Any idea what might be causing this?

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Hi scorphus, nice tool ther ! Think it can be really really useful.
I have a few ideas to make it better (mostly has to do with the formatting I think) :

  • would be useful to choose the activity type (run, bike, swim, gym…)
  • could add a note part so that yourself or your coach can add some insights on the session
  • personnaly would prefer to have a single power applied for low zones (z1 and Z2) and create intervals for harder sessions (SST or HIIT,…). Maybe directly on the formatting but I’m not sure.

Anyway, really good tool, thanks a lot !

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Runner here. This looks like an amazing tool - has anyone figured out a way to make it work with running training plans?

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Hi everyone, does anybody knows how to set the FTP for the training plan creation? I have 280w at Intervasl.icu and Garmin, but the training plan is created based on 250w

Hey, Jorrit!

Sorry for the huge delay! I’m glad you find the tool useful!

I’ve experienced some caching issues. Please, try giving it a hard reload and see if the workouts get refreshed.

Using the same input you supplied:

rest z5:0:75:0 rest z3:0:75:0 rest z2:0:150:0 rest
rest z5:0:75:0 rest z3:0:75:0 rest z2:0:150:0 rest
rest z5:0:75:0 rest z3:0:75:0 rest z2:0:150:0 rest
rest z5:0:75:0 rest z3:0:75:0 rest z2:0:150:0 rest

This is what I’ve got:

Please, LMK how it goes.

Both @Ismael_Poilane and @nulall, thank you very much for your inputs and suggestions! I still need a way to generate running (and swimming) workouts. I’m working on a new version and will let you know as soon as I come up with something useful.

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Hey, @Gianfranco_Montaldo!

The intensity of each block of a workout is supposed to be expressed in percentage. Thus it will be in respect to your FTP you have defined in Interval.icu’s settings. Would you please double-check that and in case it’s still a positive, kindly show me an example? Thanks!

Hi, I’m currently trying to use the tool to create varied Z2 training sessions, rather than a standard 60-minute session at a fixed power output. I’m encountering the same problem: when I create the sessions, the default power output is 250W. I’ve checked my settings and my FTP is correctly set manually to 200W.

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Hey, @Parmentier! I’m glad you’re making use of the tool!

Although the 250W is there only as part of the description — the actual structure is expressed in percentage of your configured FTP — I can definitely change the description to consider your FTP instead of a default, arbitrary one.

Thing is, back when I wrote the Plan Creator it didn’t need to read the athlete’s wellness data, which includes FTP. Therefore, the permissions required were only those necessary to add plans to the athlete’s library. But, more recently, I’ve added the Wellness Dashboard (Intertools — Intervals.icu Tools) which reads your wellness data (and your FTP). The privacy policy was also updated to cover that.

Now that the tool has access to your FTP, it can use it to accurately render the workout description! I’ll LYK as soon as I deploy a new version.

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Hi,
Facing an issue trying to connect :frowning: :

" Internal Server Error. The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the application."
Anyone else?
Arthur

Hey, @_Arthur! Glad to know you’re using the tool!

It appears that there has been an issue with the authentication process where the Intervals.icu API was resetting the authorization scope and that was triggering an error. It seems to have been resolved. Maybe @david could kindly confirm.

Thanks for the heads up!

UPDATE: [the issue as been identified and fixed]

Hey @scorphus, thanks for the quick reply :slight_smile:
The app seems perfect for me, in order to plan my season ATP.
As it stands, still KO though
Waiting a few hours and will try later
Arthur

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Oh, I see the same error again. I could reproduce it and will fix it soon.

In the meantime, can you please confirm you’re not selecting any additional permissions:

IOW, please leave the check boxes as they are and click OK.

My bad! I am so confused. I checked everything.. Now it works :slight_smile:
Sorry for the disturbance!
Arthur

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Awesome! I’m gonna implement a fix to overcome that (although not using any of the extra permissions ofc). Thanks for letting me know!

That issue is now fixed and authentication works when everything is checked :smiley:

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Full year planned (high level ATP vision) :slight_smile:
ready to kick all my 4 Gran Fondo this year!!
Awesome job thanks @scorphus

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That’s simply mega! Makes me very happy! Thank you for sharing!

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@scorphus I’m just finding out about your tool. I could read it’s unning % FTP to plan full year workouts, has there been any extensive use by some athletes who are exclusively running and using Stryd power sensor? At the moment I’m using a Google Sheet to plan my macro cycles, then on weekly basis adjusting workouts in Stryd to fine tune distance/duration. I have the list of races (A, B and C categories), holidays, milestones recorded in GPT so I’m using AI to get advice on ramping up/down training load. I’m using a lot my sensation week on week to make adjustments on intensity, and deal with any “life happens” scenario.

What I’m really after with Intervals.ICU : being able to plan 12 months in advance, to visually see the races, and the fitness stats as I’m approaching them in order to better plan load retrospectively.

My primary goal for a training cycle is to be able to reach the race in the best condition possible, especially not “over trained” I prefer to be slightly under trained or just about right, than taking any risk of injuries.