Not gonna lie, this whole topic would not really be a thing if I only managed to control my Elite Suito with Wahoo Bolt on a planned workout session without Bolt forcing it to be all in ERG mode. Usually it offers different options to control the trainer, but case of loading up a planned training it goes ERG only which sucks.
Anyways, when using icTrainer I noticed that my form is bit better and I decided to test it running wahoo bolt with my left crank power meter and at the same regular training on icTrainer + Elite Suito. Below there are differences in power measured. I know it might be not the best place for that, but actually I’ve never seen a place filled with more passionate people about cycling & training than this one so I decided to share it
ERG on icTrainer feels like a harder effort than it really is to me, so if ERG Mode Was set to 190W then , inpeak showed 205W, which personally is close to how I felt I was riding
Without ERG inpeak shows less power output (I thought this is L/R balance thing, need to borrow Direto as Suito does not measure L/R Balance; anyways I dont think that’s the case, as with ERG mode it’s Inpeak that’s showing bigger power output)
I wrote before that when using icTrainer I feel like it offers less resistance on a bike - so to produce 190W I need to be in a differnt gear than I used to on zwift, so I’ve added artificial 3% grade and then both power outputs were close together.
Again, biggest difference is in my Zone2 effort - inpeak 137W vs icTrainer 152W.
I’m planning to check Z2 differences inpeak VS Zwift vs icTrainer on the same day to exclude ‘how I feel on a given day’ volatility - probably tomorrow. As yesterday Zwift + Suito showed Z2 132W effort vs Inpeak 114W…
Which power is recorded in those cases?
Is it the power from the trainer or from the crank power meter?
I’m not familiar with Wahoo Bolt but Garmin’s for example will always show power from a ‘real’ power meter if available. Software platforms usually have configuration settings to show one or the other and most can even use your real power to ‘correct’ the trainer resistance. The target power sent to the trainer, is modified to make sure that the external power meter reads the configured target. Pretty sure that icTrainer does that.
And pretty sure that the Bolt isn’t doing that.
It’s not uncommon for trainer power data (which in fact is nothing more then a speed/power conversion curve) to differ several tens of watts with the real power measured by a power meter.
Not at all.
It replaces the zwift server with your own (hence no other users), and so you only really miss out on any social aspects. Perfect for routes / workouts and the included pace partners.
I run on a linux laptop (fedora). You could run in a VM on mac or other. The server and client can be on different machines as long as they have network connectivity. Ie Android client, Server on linux vm on an apple pc. (or lets say mac client talking via network to server on linux vm on said mac))
Wahoo RGT free account allows you to ride on ANY event created by a premium user or by Wahoo: group rides, races, time trial, elimination races…
Free version does not allow to upload workouts to RGT but you can control your trainer from another app while riding in RGT.
Only “problem” is that to be competitive you need to use the new steering feature (which is awesome) That means adding some hardware. "Wahoo steer "is the accessory I use but in RGT facebook group you can find many much cheaper home made alternatives, like bluetooth buttons. If you just want to try the steering feature without any hardware at all you can just touch the arrows in the RGT remote app in your smartphone. Once you get used to steering it is a very immersive an interactive experience.
This is a nice review (before steering was released)
I forgot: Many events have few riders, or just bots (this is where Zwift is unbeatable) One of the most popular events, with only real riders, are the ones created by Team Lou. But there are others too.
@Rober_Action_Rower you should try VirtuPro (https://www.virtuprocycling.com) its free, but still under development.
There are possibly to ride with other people, but you can also ride against AI.
There are not yet possible to create your own training programs, but you can choose 30/60/90 min free ride and make your workout.
Graphics are nice and ride feel is also good, but there are no trainer difficulty settings, so steep hills are steep and there are no way to make slope easier.
There are also possible to ride your own grand tour with daily stages - longest is 21 days, but you can ride it faster if you like to do so.
Im enjoying Rouvy too. I actually like the quite atmosphere there and the graphics are great. Exploring world from my paincave at least gives me a bit more motivation to train indoors during winter.
I do like ROUVY very much but their support. It really sucks.
When I go back in history and see the level of support that David has given (even when I was not a supporter) in comparison . Oh my…
