Training Peaks are on the Zwift connections page so I suspect thats how workouts get from TP to Zwift and then onto all your devices. I have tried to get in contact with Zwift to get something similar going but got an automated response:
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I will ping them again at the end of this month but I suspect you need to have contacts for these things
As I said before, I think the goal should be to export workouts to TP, since that is already connected to everything else, it’s almost like a GC.
Somehow TrainerDay (or ErgDB or whatever it was called before) has now capability to export to TP (which is now how I get workouts from Xert to TP)
If you could get to export to TP, you’d have access to Zwift/Wahoo etc all in in one shot.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on Zwift helping out anytime soon.
The problem is you have to request access to their API (its not generally open) and there isn’t a lot in it for them given that Intervals.icu is a competitor. TrainerDay doesn’t do analytics and and syncing to other platforms via TP introduces TD users to TP, so I can see why that happened.
You can’t get your Xert workouts to TP directly, as they basically are competitors too, like SUF. Zwift doesn’t care where you get your workouts from, it doesn’t need those, but - like BigRingVR - it offers the opportunity to load them, making it more attractive for you to pay them.
There are always people - and David is one of them - that invest loads of their (free) time developing workarounds or additional analytical tools. The only ones gaining from that, are the platforms that are unwilling to do the work themselves, even less so if a competitor is involved.
I get that, but I’m done playing that game - I’ve cancelled all services and will put more money in my intervals.icu Patreonship.
I get it.
What I don’t get is why Wahoo is in offering an API to push workouts to devices like Garmin does with GC. That is shooting themself in the foot, since people on the fence will buy a Garmin rather than a Wahoo of that is important to them.
I don’t see SUF as a competitor if Intervals.icu (BTW gotta find an acronym shorter and catchier) but I can see how lot’s of people will transition from TP to here.
I am super stoked every day I open the dashboard - so cool
Wahoo offering to push workouts to a Garmin is actually meant to attract Garmin addicts to subscribe to SUF. Yes, they’d prefer you buy a Wahoo head unit, but unlike Garmin, they’re not blind to the possibility that you may not want to.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it already but going back to Zwift workouts, I have found that for short duration sprint efforts it works a lot better if you release the trainer control completely - Zwift always ramps in the change and usually it doesn’t hit its target for ~10s. When you do this you also have the option of using a ‘flat road’ rather the Zwift terrain. For some reason (although I have not looked lately) this doesn’t seem to be an option you can select in the workout builder interface but here is the *.xml construct for it:
<SteadyState Duration="600" Power="0.5" Cadence="90"/>
<Ramp Duration="480" PowerLow="0.5" PowerHigh="1.1"/>
<SteadyState Duration="120" Power="0.5">
<textevent timeoffset="60" message="The next little block is 3 sprints, 10s each - for these you need to get in a big gear as the trainer will run free"/>
</SteadyState>
<FreeRide Duration="10" FlatRoad="1"/>
<SteadyState Duration="50" Power="0.5"/>
The only downside is you will need to use a message to display the power target…
When I don’t use BigRingVR in “free ride” mode (so I undergo the virtual slope), and if I do use Xert for short and intense intervals, I set it to “slope” mode. For ex. I just did a Ronnestad workout, and set the %age to 2%, so I can change to the big ring to do the high intensity intervals, then quickly switch to the small ring to benefit of the very short 15s of recovery
I only ride outdoors so there is lots I don’t know about Zwift! You can use “FreeRide” in the Intervals.icu workout builder. I recreated your workout. I put in 200% FTP for the 10s sprint so the training load would be factored in. It ends up in the xml … hopefully Zwift ignores that for a “FreeRide” element, otherwise you can just take the power out.
- 10m 50% 90rpm
- 8m ramp 50-110%
- The next little block is 3 sprints, 10 s each - for these you need to get in a big gear as the trainer will run free 2m 50%
- 10s freeride 200%
- 50s 50%
Do you mean the workout builder? You can click in any empty area on the calendar to create a workout. You can also click the book icon to open your workout library and add workouts there + drag and drop activities from the calendar to your library to turn them into workouts.
Click the “Add Step” button to get the dialog displayed in the previous post.
Can someone recommend me a software free or Android app free where i can load the workouts? Don’t want to pay for Zwift just to run Workouts for example. Golden Chettah always crashes when i try to load any workout and ErgVideo sometimes i have dropouts (the resistance of erg mode gets loose) for a few seconds and that don’t happens in zwift.
I’ve had mixed results with Golden Cheetah - although I’ve has some success with the v3.6 and downloading libusb for mac.
Something I’ve found that’s not subscription based and free to import / play your own .ERG files from what I can tell is the Android app “Indoor Cycling Workout” you’ll obviously need a cable to attach the ant+ dongle to the phone (in my case it was a USB OTG cable) and your trainer will need to be “ANT+ FE-C” certified.
Unfortunately I’ve not managed to see my FEC connection from the trainer yet but I’d be interested to see if others have any success.
Check TrainerDay: they have an iOS app and can import/export pretty much anything. I have not tested their app, but seems to be pretty simple and it’s free.
What trainer/head unit are you using? Both Wahoo and Garmin can play workouts on the trainer
Unless I’m missing something TrainerDay doesn’t allow you to play your own ERG files unless you subscribe - the free version looks like it only has access to 20 pre selected workouts.
I have workouts in Garmin Connect, Xert, Trainer Day and Training Peaks however intervals.icu is the best workout builder of them all. Absolutely amazing. I’m in the process of moving all my workouts here.
One minor thing I have noticed is that in Garmin Connect the activity steps don’t match those in the workout. So if I have 15 steps for warm up only the first is shown as warm up and the rest are shown as a “bike” step.