Strava sues Garmin

Importantly: before disconnecting from Strava, be sure that you’ve imported your Strava archive. Otherwise all Strava activities in intervals will be erased.

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Thank you for the heads up. Doing that now.

The funniest possible outcome here is that Strava loses and their segment patents get invalidated due to the late filing date, and we can all finally get this obvious idea in intervals (and elsewhere). Fingers crossed.

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A single central segment clearinghouse is the only thing that makes sense. Garmin couldn’t get attention to their segments. Intervals and any other site is 1/1000th the reach of Strava. Meaningless.

Would I still have Fitness and Form graphs working for me at Intervals with Garmin without a Strava account?

Absolutely. But you have to make sure that you have all historical activity as Garmin or Upload. Anything labelled with source “Strava” will be deleted in Intervals, as per request from Strava, when you disconnect from Strava.

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You can either connect directly to Wahoo from Intervals or you can have your Wahoo save a fit file to Dropbox and have Intervals pick it up there

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The only thing I use strava for is a to get a zap when I log a workout and that zap writes to a google sheet which then grabs all my data from intervals. If there was another way to get that zap I’d delete strava in a jiffy. And I use garmin segments because they’re free. Strava segment leader boards are behind a pay wall… I suppose that’s their point.

RideWithGPS also has segments. And that part is free. Though, I don’t know any app that is able to load RWGPS segments.

Yes I know this perfectly, I what I liked to know is whether the segments that I all created, especially mine, that a lot of work has given me to create them, if I delete them definitely disappear if they are still available to everyone, even if I eliminate them from the platform

If you delete your segments, they will be deleted for everyone, if that was your question.

I’ve never understood why they didn’t implement a policy of only allowing the data of premium subscribers (perhaps at a lower price tier) to be used by Intervals and such other apps. I’m glad they didn’t I might add

I know Garmin has segments but even after 13 years as a user I’ve never managed to find them. I’ve not looked very hard though. Ironically this action by Strava has prompted me to try and find them and see if they are any use to me.

The Streisand Effect pops up in the strangest of places!

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Garmin segments are totally fine. I am a cheapskate and I made duplicates of Strava segments in Garmin (few that are of interest for me from performance benchmark). It’s useful for post workout alanyisys, for compeeting with my previous best time (you can race a ghost in real time), or for KOM hunting. Find and put the segment to favourites from your previous ride, push to Edge and notification will automatically pop up when you are close to the beggining of the segment. When you enter the segment, you see if you are ahead of behind your fastest time on that segment.

The only downside is, that I really didn’t find a way to create a segment without riding it first. You can only create it from previous ride.

The Strava website can let you know

https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918827-Delete-Your-Strava-Account

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After following the tips above regarding what to do before deleting your Strava, there’s zero problem with any device (that I have) importing to Intervals, and it’s only getting easier. I deleted my Strava account years ago as soon as they starting playing games and pointing fingers as a way to try hide their own blatently hypocritical practices.

Before I started using Intervals.icu as my primary analysis tool, I used Strava, as a Premium user. Data from my Garmin 1030 is imported to Garmin Connect and synced to Strava (and again to Intervals.icu)

If I choose to import all Garmin data now, will I have double workouts in my calendar? (Strava and Garmin) . I wouldn’t mind skipping Strava all together, before they crash and burn anyway, but I don’t want to loose all my historic data :blush:

This just confirms I was right to cancel my Strava Premium subscription. The direction they’re taking doesn’t align with my values—first the tightened API terms, and now suing Garmin.

Frankly, the underlying patents look questionable to me (Garmin had segments before Strava…). Maybe this move finally gets those dubiously granted patents tossed. That would be good for the sport—and for independent tools like Intervals.icu. :slightly_smiling_face:

Cheers from Tyrol,
Andy

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There may be a small chance, but likely no cos the workouts are the same and they will override ones from Strava.