I haven’t looked in detail but usually there is something about the need to comply with legal requests which would cover this.
Right now both would come in and you would need to choose one or the other or tick all the ignore boxes for one of them. I might be able to do some kind of merge especially if the HR traces are the same.
If Xert doesn’t show an athlete’s data to anyone else then they are probably ok from the main thing. Obviously they do analyse the data which is also technically not allowed by the T&C’s but any app will be doing that.
You can select many files at once using the “Upload” button on the calendar page. I would suggest doing a year at a time. You won’t be able to upload the whole zip file though because it will be too big.
I am probably going to write an importer for that file (like the Garmin one). If you wait a bit you can use that. It will preserve more data.
You can request an archive of your personal data, and it’s quite extensive, I have to say. I see no issue with GDPR on Strava’s side.
However, these archives become fairly large, especially with long-running customers like me. Mine is over 3 GB because I upload photos regularly and have over 2000 activities. Now they introduced videos not long ago, so I do imagine these archives grow even larger in the future.
Is there anything we need to be aware of before quitting Strava? I’m thinking of settings sourced from strava eg equipment and usage statistics. Will these continue to work and update after closing the account?
Hi David, I linked Wahoo, but nothing appears on the activity page after one day…how is that? (lately I did mostly indoor/ zwift training but it was on wahoo…)
Being able to download an archive of your data is the requirement of Article 20(1) GDPR. However, article 20(2) GDPR also gives the right to have your data directly transmitted to another controller if that is “technically feasible”.
It’s technically feasible (and actually currently possible!) for intervals.icu to transfer my data directly to Dropbox, but intervals.icu refuses to transfer certain activities to Dropbox for non-technical reasons.
Direct transfers from Strava to other controllers are also technically feasible, but Strava refuses to do them if they don’t like what the other controller does with the data.
Thanks for the clarification, Tom. I can imagine that Strava satisfies 20(2) by providing a link to the archive which is accessible by anyone who you share the link with. No further login required, no password protection on the archive. I’m sure they send that link to whoever you would like - on request. But I’m punching way out of my expertise on this legal matter.
My question is: if i close my strava account completely, will information such as equipment (and associated hourly usage) no longer be available to intervals?
I can see quite a few activities from Wahoo on your calendar? You can do Options and tick the “Show source” button to see where the activities come from. So your Zwift activities to go Wahoo and then to Intervals.icu? Thats handy.
Ask them if they have an open API that can be queried by Intervals. If not, ask them if they can do the work to send the activities automatically to the Intervals open API.
@david A merge between e.g. Zwift/TPV etc & Garmin would be ideal as I have to use the Garmin FIT (I think anyway) so as to get the Alpha HRV a1 metric into Intervals. But it also allows getting e.g. Garmin Training Effect/Recovery Time etc as well. But to have the incline (so displaying for gradient adjusted power for my runs) & map/segments perhaps would be heaven. Reason being, currently I tend to use my Runcline FIT loaded into Intervals (for the gradient adjusted power), then screenshotted & saved as a image on my Garmin record before then deleting the Runcline activity so as not to mess up my totals. This makes it awkward to use the excellent Intervals comparison tool from being used. I can do it (again) screenshot the comparison & save it as an image but not ideal & presumably using a lot of your server storage (apologies). In a sense this might be better anyway as using gradient adjusted power tends to mess up my flat course run power threshold as I can run uphill far better than flat. e.g. 300+W uphill is OK (quite skinny) but on the flat my stride length would be too long & would wreck my legs & back. But with a merge I could still adjust the threshold on Intervals depending on whether significant inclines were involved or not (rarely lately in fairness) & so it would still probably be better anyway. And ideally time the merge for when/before the Wahoo Run hits the UK market (or earlier for US to troubleshoot it) as you probably won’t be able to keep me off the virtual slopes then? Currently I have a dumb/nonBT TM & so will become a kid in a sweet shop then.
Just a little note, in the quest to replace Strava API data, I’ve been doing a test download of some old Wahoo activities which has worked well for the small sample I tried.
The only thing is that it seems to have discarded my settings for those activities; and I tend to do a fair bit of ignoring velocity data and HR data. Is it possible for those settings to be preserved?
I am working on an importer for that big GDPR file from Strava that will preserve as much as possible. Should have something ready next week. I have to be really careful about not creating huge numbers of dups and so on.
So I suggest holding off on doing it yourself for now.
It truly feels to me that this is the result of some sort of legal or regulatory action applied to Strava. Strava’s statements remind me or those made by other entities that were subject to lawsuit settlements. This is a matter of feel and reading a bunch in a previous career.
See the difference between David’s announcement that Zwift integration is almost complete and Strava’s to essentially cease and desist. David’s task is almost complete, indicating that he’s been working at it and probably working with Zwift. Strava’s is abrupt, showing no work with third party developers.
It would take quite some time and subscriptions to more than one case archives to tell for sure whether Strava was subject to a settlement. Even if it is, my guess would be that it’s under seal. If this is the result of an EU regulatory ruling
, I wouldn’t have the least idea how to find it.
Someone on reddit posted the below diff (I don’t know where the original file can be found) but the new licence agreement doesn’t say you cannot share a user’s data with other users but
“You must always respect Strava users and comply with their privacy choices. This includes not sharing a Strava user’s data with other users, end users of your application, or third parties without explicit consent”
The the person that sent you the email misunderstand the new licence agreement?
(I was slow in writing and see @david just crossposted)