Is there some way to change/adapt your fatigue? In my experience, my fatigue is calculated too high. I’m not sure how or why, but according to my fitness chart, I end up in the red form zone way too often, without actually feeling I am (overly) fatigued.
I can deal with long high intensity training or activity and (usually) recover pretty fast, so that may have to do with it.
Not worried, just curious if there is a way to have the numbers better reflect how I feel.
There’s nothing wrong with the fatigue graph. There’s something wrong with your body. You are fatigued. Slow down, take it easy, and let me be ahead in fatigue in 60+ for a while.
Hahaha! I’m sorry Kim, yes, my primary goal was to get past you all along
Seriously, I know that there’s a logic and a math behind all of it, but I just don’t feel I will crack anytime soon. I have never done so in the past, when I’ve been ‘in the red’ even more.
However, I might eventually develop an injury, if I do not get hit by a car again first. And yes, that might be due to the fact that I spent so many hours on my bike, but not to fatigue or a high training load.
Anyway, the answer probably is no, so I’ll just stop looking at the graphs
If I lower that, it only gets worse. I can set it to max 14 days, which gives a lower fatigue by 31, but it’s still way too high to get a form that’s not red…
(I missed the possibility to adjust those parameters btw, so that’s my bad)
I think you are talking about training stress balance when you say you are in the red. If you are in the red, that does not necessarily mean, that you are doing to much, but that you are maybe increasing your training load to fast to give your body a chance to adapt. This could also mean, that you are taking breaks and your fitness decreases and than you start again with an overload to fast.
Yes, form. There’s nothing wrong with being in the red zone for a few days, but prolonged negative form, theoretically puts you in danger of over-training.
Probably true for most, but I’m just wondering if there’s some research that shows it’s not true for everyone and if one could adapt parameters to reflect that.
As it turns out, there are, fatigue and fitness days can be changed. But it doesn’t change much for me, either way…
Just throwing it out there, but often when someone has inflated CTL and/or fatigue (ATL) numbers it’s due to miscalculated TSS. If you use HR/TSS or have an FTP set a bit low this isn’t an uncommon situation. FTP goes up, TSS goes down along with ATL for a given effort.
I often spend A LOT of time in the red when I start a training block after a big overload block and don’t think to reassess and adjust FTP post rest week. It’s typically how I catch increases since I don’t follow a structured plan.
Thank Josh, that makes sense and I’m aware of IF/TSS being over calculated if set too low. However, my FTP is kept up to date on a regular basis, Xert keeps great track of changes…
I assumed you were well aware but figured I’d throw it out there for anyone new to training with power that might find this thread down the road. Seems like intervals is picking up new users all the time.
If your power and or heart rate zones are not correctly set then you will get false readings. Most cyclists set their FTP’s much higher than they actually are and that will skew the numbers.
Yes you are correct, if ftp is set too high your fatigue numbers will not be accurate and if ftp is set too low your fatigue numbers will also be inaccurate…the key is to set power zones after an accurate ftp test. Then the results will be more accurate, but the numbers don’t apply to all athletes depending on their lifestyle, stress, diet, sleep and last but not least your genes. Maybe you have superior genes…
As I said, I keep a sharp eye on all my parameters being correct, but apparently, my fatigue rate is something that doesn’t adhere to ‘normal’ standards.
Anyway, it’s not a big deal and I’m in no way worried or hindered by it - I was just curious, also to see if others have similar experiences.