You are training too hard

its on Intervals, might be a supporter / paid feature.

here is data from a vineyard’s weather station about midway on the course:

temperature, dew point, humidity, wind direction, sustained wind, and gusts.

The Intervals data is close but not the same

I’m guessing its from another weather station, maybe from one of 4 airports in the metro area.

You can get that if you have the Weather info set (Options - Weather) and then click on the Weather info in the summary

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poked around and found it in the calendar view:

That is super cool that that is available in your area !! That would be fun info to have.

Unfortunately I live in a large city near - ish a great lake, w lots of topography around; trails down in tight valleys, on the lakeshore vs. tucked away in the forests, etc. I have no clue where the local weather stations are, but they must be underwater in the lake, or on the very top of one of the skyscrapers downtown in the larger city nearby… bc the “current weather” in my area is always off by 5 - 15 C, could say pouring rain but there’s not a cloud in the sky, “high wind warning” but it’s dead still, etc.

BRB, mounting one of those little spin-y wind spd & direction monitor thingys to the tip of my aero bars !!! :laughing:

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Familiar with the general area, I grew up and went to college near Great Lakes (Huron, Michigan, and Superior)… On a computer (easier) or mobile use browser and go to wunderground.com and pull up a weather station near you, then click CHANGE^ (it’s on the third line reading WEST LOOP - OLD ST. PATS STATION | CHANGE):

now you can find stations along your route.

Scroll down to History

and click on Almanac for May 2, 2025 and if the station is reporting wind you will see it. You can also change dates and see wind going back in time.

Now I live near the greatest lake of all - the Pacific Ocean. Lots and lots of wind in the Sacramento area:

Windy.com and Windfinder.com are pretty good, and here I’ve toggled a control (right side) to display weather stations. While I live in flatland, my nearest HC climb - Mt Diablo) is visible and not too far away. Or I can simply ride an hour and start climbing all the way up to South Lake Tahoe.

Hope you find something useful!

Here’s the topic with more info

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Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to post this ! I’m going to dig into this.

So, is training easy working?

Screenshot 2025-05-03 at 7.21.47 AM

10 minute power of 356W, that’s 25W higher than my best last year, which was set in late July during Chicago Grit, when I was getting podiums in the 50+ races and finished 4th overall for the series, against some pretty decent competition.

What I find interesting is that my fitness doesn’t seem to be doing very much, from my training I feel like I’m not making great progress, and then when I get into races I set all sorts of higher values and perform really well. Just a few weeks ago I did 5x3 VO2 and I was only doing about 325-330W for those, and they were still hard. Obviously in a race you have extra motivation to do well and it’s easier to hit higher numbers. But that can only go so far.

I’m continually amazed with how I can fell like I’m not going that hard, and then when it matters the fitness is even better than I anticipated.

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These sorts of wattage figures, unless your sub 60kg, don’t really take tons of work to attain. Obviously light training and freshness will make you feel like your “training” is some magic formula you discovered. The truth is, a 9.5 minute effort has a large anaerobic component and means nothing without knowing what the previous 2-4 hours of riding was like. At least, you should add that context before you start giving coaching-like advice on here.

I have far more issues with this statement than anything in this thread.

All males in Intervals says that’s somewhat special:

I’ve not come close. My all time curve, was born with that short power, can’t squat or deadlift my weight (90kg) but I can make all my muscles fire on command.

:man_shrugging:t2:

That’s wild. You weight nearly 50% more than me and put out about 10% less power across the range and I only train sub 10 hours per week. And Im a crappy cyclist!

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Do you find that FTP prediction ok? I mean, you ever need formal testing?

That’s what happens when you have average endurance genetics, are built like a weight lifter, and only start seriously cycling in mid to late fifties. And mostly averaging 6-7 hours/week. Graduated from high school at 77kg and was skinny. :man_shrugging:t2:

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I would lose to you 2-3 bikes length at your 60s power on a flat road.
You know what, even at 10min I think I would lose…

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Thankfully I live in flatland!

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You write your post as if it disagrees with my comment but most of what you mention supports my statement. Youre riding 6-7 hours a week as an old and inexperienced cyclist and your numbers are what you call average. So youre not even doing a ton of work, you have age against you, etc, and your numbers aren’t that far off op, which supports my statement that it doesn’t take much to get there.

The point was that only the best 10% of male intervals users could hold this power (350w for 10m). That’s not average.

Where did I or he mention average besides his genetics

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I’m not doing any formal testing, but based on what it estimates and what I see I can do on 20 minute or longer efforts, I feel like, for me the FTP is being overestimated here. I’ve set my FTP for 300 based on this, not the 320 it has estimated.

I also had a good day here. I’m very happy with the 10 minute power here, but if repeated this a few more times, I suspect I wouldn’t quite match it.

FTP is a useful measure. It’s not the end-all be-all. I find the estimates very helpful for building my workouts and giving myself something to work with as a starting point, and then using RPE to allow me to hone in what I"m going to do for the intervals.

Ultimately, for me, what matters is what I do on race day. This was a great race day for me in terms of the power. Unfortunately, it was an uphill time trial and I’m 6’2" and 175 lbs, so results-wise it wasn’t great. I’m focused on crits, so I haven’t worried much about my weight. I’m tall but not big, clearly diet is going to be the next thing I need to focus a bit more on if I want to do better on the hillier events.

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