Review of Virtual Riding Platforms

Yes, when you get to junctions, you can choose to deviate from the route you’ve selected.

Re TrainerRoad, I find the training sessions very effective, but very dull, and I ride them in parallel with FulGaz videos for a bit of entertainment.

Robert

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I send my customs workouts to trainingpeaks and trainingpeaks send to rouvy, without any type off problem

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hi.

Actually it does.

I’ve tried them all and I ended up with Rouvy (long time already) because you have real scenic routes (climbs, famous etc) for endurance rides, you have online races including your own created ones, you have workouts with or without videos and you also have free rides with manual slope or power settings on the fly.
But wait is not all flowers …
Despite all the above they have some unbelievable simple but annoying things/bugs to fix mainly now that they are implementing a new app called “Rouvy AR” replacing the old one called “Rouvy Workouts” as follow:

  1. The new Rouvy AR does not avoid windows screensaver therefore you have to remember to turn that off and on every time … a real PITA. The old app works flawless.
  2. The new Rouvy AR no long presents you workout “text messages” (steps instructions) and lost the free ride (slope/power) option. The old app works flawless
  3. All TSS’s showed at their new Rouvy AR workout library are completely wrong making impossible to choose based on this criteria.
  4. The new Rouvy AR only allow video downloads to the main drive giving a hard time for the ones who have bad internet connections and a small SSD… The old app allows you to choose any drive/directory.
    Bottom line, imho, the new Rouvy AR is more a downgrade but at the end it still woth it:-) LOL
    And I’m still a subscriber praying they take long enough to finally discontinue the old Rouvy Workouts while they add all the above to the new one. I hope…

Regards,

PS: they should hire @david with his commitment to support and new features :slight_smile:

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I have been using Rouvy (forgot their old name) since 2015, and Intervals wasn’t around then so had to make do with their workouts, like this one below.

Since 2020 (March) I’ve used Rouvy AR only which AFAIK didn’t have the option to upload custom workouts.

Zwift is so much easier.

Guess everything is easier with TP.

I only use their free version as Intervals, WKO5 and Excel (ATP) is enough for me for analysis purposes.

Have never used the mobile version but the desktop version does allow for creating or import custom workouts
Keep in mind TSS values are all wrong.
The one circled in blue was created with intervals and has a 132 TSS and not 82 … but after running it with Rouvy it will show you the correct TSS on their activities diary.

Yes exactly, I think TR did a great job with their adaptive training. So it adjusted the TSS/difficulty on your recent workout performamce and RPE ratings. However I need some kind of entertainment. Fulgaz is one of the best for that. Real scenic routes at high quality. But you could also watch Netflix or Youtube.

For the real hard workouts however I prefer to watch nothing, my brain is not capable to actively following something else than my workout. So maximum “entertainment” would be music.

I tried also Rouvy (good overall, but crashed a little bit too often) and also RGT (too slow on my laptop, not many “nice” routes).

Has anyone gotten Fulgaz to work with Ant+ sensors on bike (cadence) and HR monitor? I’ve had no luck with that, though every other platform I’ve tried (RGT, Rouvy, BKOOL, BigRingVR) has been fine with Ant+.

Yes it works, but not if i use TR with the Bluetooth connection (or ANT+). But standalone Fulgaz works with Ant+ and BT for me.

I am running FulGaz on an iPad, so using BT is by far the easiest option. However, I am usually running TrainerRoad in parallel as follows:

TrainerRoad running on my Android phone connected to Tacx Neo (with control) vis BT, HRM via ANT+ (for a technical reason).

FulGaz running on the iPad with a BT connection to the HRM sensor and a BT connection via CABLE to the ANT+ power and cadence broadcast by the Tacx Neo. This gives me a bit of visual interest during the rather boring interval sessions.

The CABLE is a rather useful device that reads ANT+ broadcasts and retransmits as BT. Very useful where BT channels are limited. It might help in your situation.

Robert

I know that some people do use it w/ Wahoo Kickr’s.

I found the problem. I had the old version of AR, and didn’t use the Workout app.

I see the new 2022 version (Mac) has the option to import custom workouts. Thanks.

If anyone here is familiar with GTA V the video game, someone (supposedly a Garmin employee) made a mod https://www.gtbikev.com/ to be able to cycle in the game world. It’s definitely a kludge but I think I’m going to give it a go. If nothing else, it should be good for a laugh :rofl:

Apparently I’m late to the game. GPLama made a video on the topic two years ago: Cycling in Grand Theft Auto V with GTBikeV: Details // Setup // Install HOW-TO - YouTube

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I got GTA V biking working and I have to say it works well enough. The installation process was easy with the new installer. The graphics and world is really much nicer than any of the game worlds of Zwift or RGT. It’s not multiplayer but I don’t really care that much for the social features of Zwift. In GTA V, a full 3D game world is actually a compelling use case for the steering accessory Elite Sterzo Smart.

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man… I love the video at 1:34 mins

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:joy: You might enjoy GPLama’s video on the update:

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LOL… Well, that’s certainly one way to “drop” your competitor

I agree with this approach using FG for inspiration/boredom relief. I’ve tried connecting a few FulGaz rides with Tickr but (1) the power seems harder per Watt v. TR, (2) cannot get HR and cadence to connect consistently, and (3) FG picture at times pauses or completely locks up (using an HDMI cable from laptop to TV) resulting in loss of ride. I prefer the few rides on FG where there are other cyclists on the route that I can “chase.” I don’t know of a way to find those, but would like to.

I’ve tried (almost) all of the platforms mentioned in this thread. I’m surprised that Kinomap wasn’t mentioned…but that’s the platform I’ve gone with. I suppose they only have mobile apps but I’m typically projecting via Apple TV to a large display. Their app connects to my smart trainer, and other sensors, etc.

I only use the “Motion Videos” feature, but they also have structured workout, multiplayer, and some coaching features. Most of the videos I’ve seen are pretty good quality. I’ve also uploaded several of my own ride videos to train on later. There is a video creator reward program with free subscriptions or quarterly payments if your videos get enough usage.

-robert

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Rouvy has an interesting set of Augmented Reality (AR) routes where you ride in real world video routes but they place 3D rendered riders representing you and others on the display.

This article is from 2018 so the implementation has changed/improved Rouvy Rolls Out Augmented Reality Indoor Training Feature | DC Rainmaker

I prefer it over the Fulgaz ‘just video’ view.