not a politically correct one, but anyway… I’ve been a Golden Cheetah aficionado since 2015 but nowadays I feel it’s struggling to “keep the pace”.
Since Intervals.icu is constantly growing with new cool features, and also “mild nerd” features I love, I wonder if there is any use case Golden Cheetah still makes sense for the common user nowadays.
I still have Golden Cheetah on my desktop but I’m no longer feeding it my activities. It became sort of a backup in case I have a corrupt FIT or a more obscure format of an activity file. Or as an easy check for dev_fields. For the ‘common user’, Golden Cheetah lacks the user friendliness that we get with Intervals. For the ‘nerd’, Intervals is closing the gap at a lightning speed
What I really would like to get in Intervals is the VeloClinic plot to analyse CP/W’ values.
I haven’t opened GC since I discovered intervals.icu about 6 weeks ago. I keep wondering how it would go down if I posted on the GC forum about this software because I think it does so much of what GC does, bit it’s much more user friendly and doesn’t have the quirks if GC
Same for me over here. I was a heavy GC user for many, many years until the capabilities from Intervals.ICU reached such a level of maturity and changed the game.
GC still has and brings massive value, people spent and will spend heavy time in developing the code base further. But, we have to be honest, solutions like Intervals.ICU are the future, how wants to deal with local installations, updates, backups, ugly performance…floppy disk epochs are over since decades.
Just highlight what the APIs at ICU are capable of, the easy of use and integration into any cloud service became already so handy and will get easier and easier the more trends like low-code-no-code conquer private homes.
If you then look broader to ICUs direct or indirect competition, question yourself: There isn´t any? Right?
I’m using Golden Cheetah mainly to keep my log history.
All new apps are good but only online and you never know when it stops. With GC we can transform log in different format that let’s me to load it again to some new apps and logs are still on my computer. Good to have when you want so see 10 years back.
I was able to load 2008 logs to GC. The worst today is Strava, as Strava does not let load all data but just some partial part all extra part is not downloaded. The only way to have a complete log is to load it directly from the watch. Same with ICU the dowload log from Strava is the Strava data and not the real data from the watch. Miss all extra part.
Then GC with the watch log upload you can have the correct data.
Did you ever do Stravas Bulk Export? I do it on a yearly basis, you are getting all, I am really all your data, very well prepared and structured to be used further. All your original uploaded, imported, pushed or pulled data is present, they don´t even skip this, for good reasons I assume.
Strava is still good for diary reasons, uploading pictures and a couple of other features which are part of the free tier.
Do you mean that a bulk export from Strava also includes your original uploaded file?
I mean the original file with ALL data like L/R balance and so on…
Any file downloaded from Strava in the ‘normal’ way lacks some of the above mentioned data.
Right, the bulk download, normally used for GDPR reasons close before you request to delete your Strava Account, it has well sorted all original uploads.
Same here. I was an avid Golden Cheetah user. I had many customized charts, but at the end of the day, I can still get nearly everything here at intervals.icu AND I can access it from any device I have instead of just on my desktop. I happily became a supporter because of this.
Hi.
Exactly so, when batch downloading the entire history, the original “FIT” files are also transferred from Strava (albeit compressed to gz format) - this is simply the source file e.g. from a Garmin counter along with all custom fields (e.g. DFA-a1, artifact, Resp, LivePower, W`Bal, etc) and all system fields including ride dynamics, L/R balance, power peaks/peaks.
I’m becoming more Intervals focused but one thing I do use on GC is the ability to auto detect climbs. I don’t think this is currently possible on Intervals?
I am also shifting from GC to Intervals.icu, AND…I am also starting to move more and more away from TrainingPeaks, because I fell that Intervals.icu can do much of the same. The interface on TrainingPeaks is, however, still a bit ahead. It is faster to make a plan, and to build an activity. And I have quite a few training plans in TrainingPeaks still.
Trainingpeaks my calendar for now - Intervals.icu is my training app.
Yes maybe I’m mistaken but the main reason I use TP is it’s long term planning capabilities, i.e. straightforward training plans and workout managing, race calendar, at a glance splash page, etc. Also the interface is quite slick and quick, let’s say time saving for me (it’s an app…). For all the rest Intervals is obviously far better.