Garmin TSS / Load

I noticed just recently the number between Garmin TSS and Intevals load not matching, Did this change? have I got a wrong setting?

So for my recent 200k audax I get ;

Garmin: TSS 506.6 Load 432
Intervals Load 467. Power Load 467 Strain Score 525 Heart rate load 336

I have checked and both the Garmin activity and the Intervals activity have the same FTP value

I am concerned because I that I knew my TSB limits and now I realise I could have much higher TSB that expected. Maybe in my head but I feel over tired for the numbers

My total for load for the week is over 250 low !

any thoughts

Julian

Did it match for you in the past? I have not actually compared them in my data but my expectation is that all apps/services use their one individual load formulas or constants in them, and basically none publish them (at least this was the case for all I ever used). So I wouldn’t even expect them to match between sites in any case…

Garmin’s TSS should very closely match Intervals’ Power load, less then 1% difference. If not, something is definitely off.
Garmin’s Load is something different and HR load from Intervals will also be different.
Auto-pause, moving time, …
Show some screenshots with the relevant data.

Yes I though it did, or it was very minor

Load/TSS is (Intensity^2 * moving time). Your moving time is different, and your intensity is slightly different (because NP in intervals is 175w and in garmin 168w).

I looked at two from my Garmin activities, and NP in both platforms are basically the same (+/-1w). So the difference arise, because the NP is different. I wonder why that‘s the case. The only reason I can think of are connection outages, where Garmin uses Accumulated Power, but Intervals uses the Raw Power Stream. Maybe that‘s why the moving time is also different.

I think the criteria intervals uses for moving time versus Garmin is different. Intervals has the option to include velocity or not. Garmin has auto pause (which I switch off) .

I think the difference is minor but on a 200 - 600 km audax (10 - 40 hours ) it gets significant.

I think the real answer is to have a do_not_recalc_uploaded_values Flag. ok the difference may only be a couple of points, but it is calmative. Further, you can argue whether of not ± 3 TSS is interesting/feel-able/relavent or not, constancy across systems / platforms is desirable.

Julian

If you want to use the “original” values, just add them as custom field.