Support for rowing data / migrating from rowsandall.com

We need to wait what @david will do to support in-stroke data, if he wants to do that.

Don’t cycling power meters provide similar data?

Good suggestion. Changed to use that, updated the docs.

@CrewNerd

I have sent you and David an email with some ideas on how to continue supporting a course library for CrewNerd.

On another note, in CrewNerd’s FIT export you use the Developer Fields ā€œCheckā€, ā€œBounceā€, and ā€œStroke Lengthā€. What are your thoughts about the proposed Developer Fields above?

Thanks, @Sander_Roosendaal - the fields above look good. My ā€œcheckā€ and ā€œbounceā€ fields are unique to CrewNerd, but I could change my ā€œStroke Lengthā€ (currently Float32) to use your StrokeDistance field instead.

FYI, I have summarized the migration status to Rowsandall.com users here: Update on Rowsandall to Intervals.icu migration – Rowing Analytics

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Hi all,

  1. https://rownative.icu/ is now open for beta testing. It can already calculate time on course for your rowing workouts on intervals.icu. It’s a beta, so subsequent releases may destroy your data on intervals.icu (recorded course times and new courses). Please all give this a good test drive. Contributors to code development and maintenance are also welcome.
  2. In the background I am discussing with rowing software and hardware vendors to align on the FIT developers fields, to create a stable situation before David implements any developer fields. This will likely take a few weeks.
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Hi @Sander_Roosendaal I’ve updated our fit-writer to include the developer fields (all other fields we already sent in). As it is in the total ā€œOpenRowingMonitor 0.9.7ā€ package, it will become our main branch in two weeks (aiming for an early April release). As the update is pretty big already, I don’t want to postpone that any further.

If someone has a valid Garmin developer UID, we could even define the fields at Garmin, making them usefull across the board (they’ll show up as Garmin IQ fields).

Only challenge is (as expected) the Force Curve. As I have some other issues open at our upstream dev that I do want to inject in 0.9.7 before release, I don’t want to put too much pressure on that yet.

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One of my priority favourites is NK import and export/upload to C2. Please - if possible - do not forget that export.

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Hi @Sander_Roosendaal I uploaded a fit-file to github, containing all fields named above, including force curves. It contains quite elaborate summaries as well, preventing manual post-processing, as this goes pretty badly on rowing data.

Thank you. I hope to get some response from the rowing community in the coming weeks. I am also considering if we should keep the ā€œin-strokeā€ data part of the FIT standard discussion open longer but already settle for other custom developer fields.

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Status update: We are testing rowing courses sharing and online course-based rowing challenges on rownative.com, which is Open Source, community driven and links to your account on intervals.icu. CrewNerd is testing their side of the API.

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And another status update. I just got an email from NK

Sorry it’s taken me so long to get back to you on this. I think it’s a great idea to try to standardize for compatibility across platforms, and obviously NK should be a participant in the standards.

I’ve taken an initial look through your documentation. I think you’re in as good a position as anyone to have a comprehensive view of the fields and parameters. I don’t have any immediate feedback on what you’ve already put in place. I do, however, expect that additional fields will emerge over the coming years. It seems it should be simple to expand the standard as necessary.

So in summary, we’re in!

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I have created an account on intervals.icu without any data. I want to get my rowsandall data over. Will that happen automatically or will I need to take an action, and if so what and when?

Working on that in the background. We’re trying to establish a standart FIT format with the rowing community to make it low risk for intervals.icu to implement. Standards are slow … But rest assured, there will be an export before the end of the year.

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