# \[DONE\] Horisontal line in trainingload **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests\ **Created:** [23 January 2020 20:44 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292 "2020-01-23T20:44:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Knud\_Langelund](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/knud_langelund/32/38537_2.png) [@Knud\_Langelund](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Knud_Langelund)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2020 20:44 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/1 "2020-01-23T20:44:06Z")
Is it possible to ad a horisontal line in traningload, so I can see my progress from now and through ex. a year ? ---
**Author:** ![david](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/david/32/30189_2.png) [@david](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/david)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2020 04:20 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/2 "2020-01-24T04:20:39Z")
I don’t quite understand your request. There are horizontal lines on the chart for 40, 50, 60 etc. training load. Do you mean a line linked to the mouse position like the vertical line? ---
**Author:** ![Knud\_Langelund](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/knud_langelund/32/38537_2.png) [@Knud\_Langelund](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Knud_Langelund)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2020 07:51 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/3 "2020-01-24T07:51:25Z")
I’m on a iPad so I don’t have a mouse. Thats correct there are small lines but it’s difficult to se to difference from start to end. In Strava fitness (summit) theres a line which shows what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Cyclopaat](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/cyclopaat/32/1946_2.png) [@Cyclopaat](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Cyclopaat)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2020 08:54 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/4 "2020-01-24T08:54:38Z")
Like this? That shows your current level, so you can see if you are above or below that at any point in time. ![Screenshot 2020-01-24 09.51.44](https://forum.intervals.icu/uploads/default/original/1X/907b823e335822c72d2e70870e744eb8fcc52eca.png) ---
**Author:** ![david](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/david/32/30189_2.png) [@david](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/david)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2020 09:06 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/5 "2020-01-24T09:06:34Z")
Ah I get it now. I will add that soon. Almost done with making the fitness and fatigue days configurable. ---
**Author:** ![Knud\_Langelund](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/knud_langelund/32/38537_2.png) [@Knud\_Langelund](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Knud_Langelund)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2020 13:17 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/6 "2020-01-24T13:17:53Z")
Yup, that´s just the right line. 👍👍 ---
**Author:** ![david](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/david/32/30189_2.png) [@david](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/david)\ **Post date:** [26 January 2020 13:35 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/7 "2020-01-26T13:35:21Z")
This is live now. It uses the fitness value from the date closest to “today”. So if you look at historical data it shows the fitness from the most recent date on the chart. ---
**Author:** ![Cyclopaat](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/cyclopaat/32/1946_2.png) [@Cyclopaat](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Cyclopaat)\ **Post date:** [26 January 2020 13:42 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/8 "2020-01-26T13:42:00Z")
👍 One somewhat related question: what model do you use to compute fitness et cetera? Strava puts me at 106 (-151 / -45) but here I get 76 (-92 / -16)… ---
**Author:** ![david](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/david/32/30189_2.png) [@david](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/david)\ **Post date:** [26 January 2020 14:06 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/9 "2020-01-26T14:06:15Z")
Its very much the standard Coggan stuff to calc CTL (fitness) and ATL (fatigue) except that I use TSB (form) = CTL - ATL whereas some other tools use TSB = CTL\_yesterday - ATL\_yesterday. ``` CTL_decay = exp(-1/42) (or whatever fitness days is set to) ATL_decay = exp(-1/7) (or whatever fatigue days is set to) CTL_today = CTL_yesterday * CTL_decay + training_load * (1 - CTL_decay) ATL_today = ATL_yesterday * ATL_decay + training_load * (1 - ATL_decay) ``` Strava doesn’t track FTP over time which makes a mess of the fitness chart. So maybe its that? When I first built the fitness stuff I did compare to Strava and got identical results. Since then they have added in “relative effort” and I don’t know how that works. ---
**Author:** ![Cyclopaat](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/cyclopaat/32/1946_2.png) [@Cyclopaat](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Cyclopaat)\ **Post date:** [26 January 2020 14:47 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/10 "2020-01-26T14:47:18Z")
From Strava > Our method for calculating Fitness, Fatigue, and Form is based off an impulse-response model first developed by Dr. Eric W. Banister in 1975. It was later applied to cycling by Dr. Andy Coggan. > > The concepts apply to any measure of training stress. For example, the first models used average heart rate and time. We use Training Load and Relative Effort, computed using data collected from a power meter and heart rate monitor, respectively. I would expect similar results, maybe not to the digit, but at least within a few clicks. No idea why that doesn’t go, but the fact that they do not track FTP over time, could be a factor. Then again, how much does a change in FTP influence these numbers? Assuming that your FTP will not fluctuate spectacularly over time, unless you sustain an injury or something… Anyway, neither me nor you should probably try to figure it out, I was just curious. ---
**Author:** ![Knud\_Langelund](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/knud_langelund/32/38537_2.png) [@Knud\_Langelund](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Knud_Langelund)\ **Post date:** [26 January 2020 16:01 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/11 "2020-01-26T16:01:17Z")
Wow. Thats awesome. Quick and great work. Thx. 👍👍 ---
**Author:** ![david](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/david/32/30189_2.png) [@david](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/david)\ **Post date:** [26 January 2020 16:26 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/12 "2020-01-26T16:26:39Z")
> [@Cyclopaat](#): > > how much does a change in FTP influence these numbers? Quite a lot actually. ``` Intensity = Normalized_watts / FTP Training load = Intensity * Intensity * Moving_hours * 100 ``` You can see the impact by changing your FTP for one of you activities and seeing what that does to the training load. Did you set Strava to use only power data? ---
**Author:** ![Cyclopaat](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/cyclopaat/32/1946_2.png) [@Cyclopaat](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Cyclopaat)\ **Post date:** [26 January 2020 17:03 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/13 "2020-01-26T17:03:19Z")
> [@david](#): > > Did you set Strava to use only power data? Power & Relative effort, but I have no other than PM data. ---
**Author:** ![Drew\_Anderson](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/drew_anderson/32/37240_2.png) [@Drew\_Anderson](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Drew_Anderson)\ **Post date:** [15 August 2021 17:48 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/14 "2021-08-15T17:48:49Z")
Would you be able to add a horizontal line linked to mouse position for all graphs in fitness? It would be helpful for comparing fatigue in the training load graph, but would make comparison of other metrics easier as well. ---
**Author:** ![david](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/david/32/30189_2.png) [@david](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/david)\ **Post date:** [15 August 2021 18:35 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/15 "2021-08-15T18:35:32Z")
Done. I hope it doesn’t annoy anyone too much 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Drew\_Anderson](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/drew_anderson/32/37240_2.png) [@Drew\_Anderson](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/Drew_Anderson)\ **Post date:** [15 August 2021 20:35 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/16 "2021-08-15T20:35:54Z")
That was fast! Looks great. Thanks so much, David. Now I have to support! 👍 ---
**Author:** ![app4g](https://forum.intervals.icu/user_avatar/forum.intervals.icu/app4g/32/41800_2.png) [@app4g](https://forum.intervals.icu/u/app4g)\ **Post date:** [14 February 2025 04:04 UTC](https://forum.intervals.icu/t/done-horisontal-line-in-trainingload/292/17 "2025-02-14T04:04:01Z")
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